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Lyynyyrd · Jan 04, 2009, 01:35 AM // 01:35

[rapid fire] or [read the wind]

PvE DPS build - do not argue based on interrupts, please.

zelgadissan · Jan 04, 2009, 01:44 AM // 01:44

I always use RTW on my turret ranger. Rapid Fire's benefit can easily be replaced with Lightning Reflexes or Flail - especially Flail since it can essentially be kept up for free the entire battle - which gives you a decent prep on top of it.

If you want a hard res or something, then maybe I'd consider Rapid Fire.

Edit: alright, I missed the builds you were deciding between in my post. I don't use a pet much but now that Never Rampage Alone is 15e I might try out the second one on my own.

Arkantos · Jan 04, 2009, 01:48 AM // 01:48

Why not just go expert's dexterity and read the wind?

BoondockSaint · Jan 04, 2009, 09:09 AM // 09:09

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Why not just go expert's dexterity and read the wind?

Exactly what I was going to say.

You then could put in [triple shot], [asuran scan], and [I am the strongest] and you have some very potent damage output in pve.

Tyla · Jan 04, 2009, 09:33 AM // 09:33

Read the Wind, because you could access an IAS through other means and it gives you additional damage.

Lourens · Jan 04, 2009, 12:02 PM // 12:02

Read the wind x Recurve = GG Interupt , nuff said

Lyynyyrd · Jan 04, 2009, 06:51 PM // 18:51

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Originally Posted by BoondockSaint

Exactly what I was going to say.

You then could put in [triple shot], [asuran scan], and [I am the strongest] and you have some very potent damage output in pve.

EotN is terrible and I plan to never acquire those skills.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkantos

Why not just go expert's dexterity and read the wind?

Because it's PvE and skills really don't matter and I just want to change it up a tad.

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Originally Posted by Lourens

Read the wind x Recurve = GG Interupt , nuff said

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Originally Posted by Lyynyyrd

PvE DPS build - do not argue based on interrupts, please.

Enough said.

snaek · Jan 04, 2009, 07:19 PM // 19:19

lol...ur such a difficult ranger (not jus this thread lol)

if ur being so picky, perhaps u should try out both and find out on ur own

as been said...rtw is better because it does +dmg and u can get an ias in other forms
as well for general pve...it allows u to use flatbow as ur main bow which shoots faster
and monster ai generally r incapable of kiting

i really cant see any point of rapid fire unless they increase the duration of the prep
(spend more time attacking...less time prepping)

Luminarus · Jan 05, 2009, 12:43 AM // 00:43

RTW + Flail > RF + Open Secondary

Shattered · Jan 05, 2009, 01:49 AM // 01:49

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Originally Posted by zelgadissan

I Rapid Fire's benefit can easily be replaced with Lightning Reflexes or Flail

Agreed. RTW cause of Arrow speed and extra damage

Amy Awien · Jan 05, 2009, 08:29 AM // 08:29

Unless there's something else to fill up your 'stance-spot' I'd use Read the Wind over Rapid Fire

t00115577 · Jan 05, 2009, 04:07 PM // 16:07

I always run RTW over Rapid.

Rhamia Darigaz · Jan 07, 2009, 06:42 PM // 18:42

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Originally Posted by Lourens

Read the wind x Recurve = GG Interupt , nuff said

fyi, if you're using anything but a flatbow while RtW is up you're using the wrong bow. RtW doesnt make your arrows move twice as fast, it sets their speed to about twice that of a recurve bow, regardless of what bow class you're wielding. this means with flatbow+RtW you're getting the flatbow's superior range and refire rate with the same arch as any other bow+RtW.

on topic, read the wind>>>>>rapid fire

Balky · Jan 07, 2009, 06:49 PM // 18:49

You`re all forgetting Expert Focus , attacks do +10 damage and cost 2 less energy, with Experts Dexterity , Scan and By Urals Hammer its a lethal kill set up. As Lyy doesn`t wan`t the eotn skils, he could then drop in fave winds with Kindle or Burning

Age · Jan 07, 2009, 10:52 PM // 22:52

I like both but yeah I use Rapid for I can't say i like animation of it as well.

Lourens · Jan 08, 2009, 10:50 AM // 10:50

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Originally Posted by Balky

You`re all forgetting Expert Focus , attacks do +10 damage and cost 2 less energy, with Experts Dexterity , Scan and By Urals Hammer its a lethal kill set up. As Lyy doesn`t wan`t the eotn skils, he could then drop in fave winds with Kindle or Burning

Expert focus is bad cause it calculates before expertise calculates

so a 10 energy attack with 9 expertise will be like 5 energy instead of 6

Amy Awien · Jan 08, 2009, 10:35 PM // 22:35

It's not 'bad', damage is the same as for Read the Wind and it will result in a 1 or 2 points of energy saved per attack skill where read the wind has the faster arrows.

MasterSasori · Jan 13, 2009, 11:09 PM // 23:09

rtw. hands down

fast and reliable.

ask the turret ranger

the savage nornbear · Jan 13, 2009, 11:37 PM // 23:37

+arrow speed cannot be easily replicated ([[favorable winds] doesn't count). IAS can be gotten from numerous sources. Therefor you must go [[read the wind].